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Old China Books: Teaching Children and the Questions They Ask

Thursday, February 4th, 2010

old china books logo2 300x300 Old China Books: Teaching Children and the Questions They AskChild Life in China

by Mary isabella Bryson

Copyright 1900

“For when we first go into a Chinese city many of the boys and girls will run away and hide themselves, afraid lest we should catch them and do some dreadful thing to them.  Some of them will run after us, calling Yang-kwei-tsz, which means something like ‘ foreign evil spirit,’ and other bad names, and a few will pick up stones and throw them at us, trying thus to drive us away.  But why are they angry when they see us coming into their cities ?’ you will ask, ‘ and why are they afraid of us ?’  Principally because we are not Chinamen, and have come from another country.  The Chinese very much dislike people of other countries coming and trading, or having any other dealings with them, and most of them would be very glad if we were all driven out of China to-morrow.  Englishmen and other foreigners would not have got into the country at all if it had not been for a great war which we had with them.  England was victorious, and so she obliged China to open several of her ports to trade with foreigners, and to allow them to live there.  And ever since, all that our nation or any other has gained from China has always been at the point of the sword, or because they were afraid of us.  So it is only natural that they are not very pleased to see us walking about the streets of their cities.

We try to win their friendship in many ways.  Having learnt their language, we are soon able to say a few kind words to the children, and then we often give them some little English pictures, which delight them very much.  What a number of questions they always have to ask us!   ‘Is there a sun and a moon in your country ?’ they inquire.  ‘ Are there hills and trees ? ‘ ‘ Why do you not have black eyes like ours ?  Have they faded out ?’ ‘  Can you see with them several feet down into the earth, and know where gold and silver is lying ?’   ‘Why do Englishwomen have such large feet, just like men, instead of “golden lilies” three inches long?’  ‘Why do you wear your hair in such a strange fashion, instead of having it glued down on wire shapes ? ‘  ‘ Why do foreign ladies wear coverings over their heads when they go out of doors ? It is just like the men!’  These and very many more questions are constantly asked and answered.”

What a difference 100 years make.  Even in Shanghai there were a few times when school students would flood you and not let you get away.  Crazy.

Book found here.

8 Great ways to connect with M and Mx

Thursday, March 11th, 2010

wordle8a 216x300 8 Great ways to connect with M and Mx1.  Twitter @MandMX

Connect with us on twitter so you can see our tweets about everything China and get updates when our new comics are posted.

2.  Squidoo pages

We have a couple squidoo pages that are pretty cool.  We have three now.  Comics, Shanghainese podcast, Old China Books.

3.  MySpace

I’m not on this one too much but it’s there for those who like MySpace.

4.  Tumblr page

This is another great way to connect with my TUMBLR friends.

5.  Facebook Fan Page

This is the best way to connect with MandMx.com. We post our cartoon links there and the occasional comment.  This is also a great way to ask questions about a cartoon that you don’t understand.  Perhaps readers who see your questions can also answer the questions!

6.  You Tube

This is our site on YouTube where you can see all our videos of our little boy studying Chinese.

7.  YouKu

The Chinese version of YouTube.  This has all our videos of our little boy studying Chinese where all of Mainland Chinese can see them.

8.  Google Reader

This is all the stuff that both M and Mx are reading.  You can subscribe through Google and keep up to date with all the stuff we’re reading about China.

Old China Books: Explaining How the Chinese Ate

Thursday, April 22nd, 2010

old china books logo2 300x300 Old China Books: Explaining How the Chinese AteThings Chinese: Being Notes on Various Subjects connected with China

By James Dyer Ball

Year Published: 1893

“In the South of China, rice is the principal vegetable food, but instead of vegetables being an adjunct to the meat, as with us, the meat is taken as a tasty article with the rice, which is the staple article of diet. Either dried, salt, or fresh vegetables are eaten at nearly every meal.

The Chinese, like the French, have nominally two meals, one about 8 or 10 o’clock in the morning, and the other at 5 or 6 in the evening or thereabouts. With the poorer classes these consist of a number of bowls of rice—cooked till so dry that each grain is separate—a little pork or fish, salt or fresh, and some fried vegetables. Everything of meat kind is chopped up fine, as the Chinese would think it barbarous to cut up anything at the table, and also to enable the chop-sticks to pick it up readily. A drink of tea from the rice-bowl finishes the frugal meal. The dinner is the same as the breakfast. This then is the ordinary everyday food of millions in the South of China, and costs only about a couple of dollars a month. The more a man has, the more he expends on his food, both as regards quality and quantity, and, as a consequence, he has a more varied fare. Though nominally only taking two set meals a day, nearly everyone takes a snack about the middle of the day, it may be only a few cakes, as the Chinese clerks in the Government offices in Hongkong indulge in; it may be a bowl of fish congee, or some other tasty soup or dish from the numerous restaurants, or from some of the many refreshment stalls, stationary and peripatetic.

Some of the hard-toiling labourers, when there is a constant demand on physical strength or muscle, take a number of meals to prime them up for their work, such for instance as some of the boatmen on the rivers in the South of China, who work from daylight to sunset, and to whom five meals a day are allowed, when in work.

Chinese food, like French, does not consist of roasts, but of a multitude of made-up dishes. Peanut oil and soy are added to them, and soups and broths are much taken.

The Chinese, as far as their own food is concerned, are ‘born cooks. Among the lower classes almost any man can turn his hand to preparing the simple dishes, and in workmens’ messes it is the youngest hand (the apprentice) who has the drudgery of the cooking to do.”

Is it true that today all Chinese are born cooks?

Do you think that the Chinese are like the French?

The book can be found here.

Old China Books: View of the Bund in Shanghai a Long Time Ago

Saturday, February 19th, 2011

old china books logo2 300x300 Old China Books: View of the Bund in Shanghai a Long Time Ago

English Life in China
by Sir Henry Knollys
Copyright 1885

“As we enter the Yellow Sea, the hitherto blue water assumes the colour and consistency of pea-soup; we steam a short distance up the Yang-tsze-Kiang River, the mere pronunciation of which brings on a sore throat, and arriving at its confluent the Hwangpoo, are transferred to a tug to enable us to cross the rapidly silting-up Woosung bar, which subsequently assumed importance as a tactical obstacle to French operations. We paddle through slime, amidst darkness and bitter cold, for about ten miles to Shanghai.  Here some dozen brilliant meteors, the last efforts of that electric light which here, as elsewhere, succeeded in enriching the directors and impoverishing the shareholders, reveal some large English buildings standing out in weird distinctness through the surrounding darkness, and the scene is rendered still more striking by the sudden influx of swarms of hideous chattering Chinese coolies springing on board from the adjacent wharf, like a flock of sheep through a gap.”

I love the descriptive words of the rivers: blue water, pea-soup, slime  and rapidly silting.

The book can be found here.


Check out a more modern book that looks great. Put together by another Husband/Wife team Chinese/Western team. They both teach at a school in the midwest.

China Books: Grace: An American Woman in China 1934-1974

Wednesday, March 9th, 2011

790165 China Books: Grace: An American Woman in China 1934 1974I found this book the other day and really look forward to reading it.  The basic story is about an American woman from Chattanooga Tennessee who fell in love and married a Chinese man in the 1930s.

She went to live with him in Tianjin and the book contains her stories and her many long letters home to her family.  One of the letters talks about her travel plans from Vancouver to Shanghai.  While on board the boat she felt sick and decided to change her plans and sent cables to alert her husband.  But by the time they arrived first in Japan she felt fine and then wanted to take a boat from Japan to Tianjin which was her original plan.  There was a huge mix up of cables and waiting times and all those things that we modern people don’t worry about anymore right?  I mean with mobile phones today we never have a problem meeting with friends… right?

This American woman named Grace lived in China during the Japanese occupation, the fall of the Nationalists and up to the Cultural Revolution.

Here’s a quote from a letter she wrote in January of 1950 which explains her process of writing a letter which is fascinating to read nowadays since people don’t write letters anymore!

“I know I’ve been very bad about writing.  I am lazy sill and prefer thinking my letters in my head after I go to bed rather than getting them down on paper and mailing them.  Sometimes one doesn’t write because there not much to write about and sometimes there too much.  Mine is the latter difficulty.  To pick just enough to put into a letter out of all the upheavals and interesting events we have been experiencing is not easy and I can’t sit down and write only ordinary family events.”

This looks to be a great book that I can’t wait to read!  This is also a great gift for that someone who is about to go to China or is thinking about it!


There are so many links out there talking about this book:
Publisher’s Weekly
Blue Rectangle has a book review along with a video!
Over at SPEAKING OF CHINA they have a list of books that are about Chinese men and their Western Wives. This book doesn’t appear on the list but it is included in a comment!

Old China Books: Becoming too Chinese

Saturday, October 1st, 2011

old china books logo2 Old China Books: Becoming too ChineseTitle: The Race Mind of the Chinese

Author: Edward Alsworth Ross

Source: The Independent Volume 71

Year Published: July – September 1911

Editor’s note about the author: Professor Ross, of the University of Wisconsin, recently made a tour of China for the purpose of studying the social conditions.  Now that the Middle Kingdom is in a state of transition due to the impact of foreign ideas upon its established civilizations the observations on the characteristics of the race by the author of “Social Psychology” are of especial interest to American readers.

“To forty-three men who as educators, missionaries and diplomats have had good opportunity to learn the “feel” of the Chinese mind I put the question, “Do you find the intellectual capacity of the yellow race equal to that of the white race?”  All but five answered “Yes,” and one sinologue of varied experience as missionary, university president and legation adviser left me gasping with the statement, ”Most of us who have spent twenty-five years or more out here come to feel that the yellow race is the normal human type, while the white race is a sport.”   The trend of opinion is that when the Chinese have become equipped with the Western arts and sciences they will match us in intellectual performance, although some think that the gap in ability between the masses and the higher classes is much wider than it is in the West.

It is significant that superior white men of long residence in China often become too Chinese in point of view to be of much service to their governments.  Sir Robert Hart was complained of as virtually a Chinaman.  Many of the consular veterans in the China service are said to champion the Chinese way of looking at things as against the Western.  It seems that little by little the civilization of the East invades and takes possession of them.  In the finer Chinese they discover an outlook more comprehensive than their own, a broad tolerance and a philosophic patience that makes mock of the eager impetuous West.”

This is in response or an add-on to the great China History Podcast from Lazlo Montgomery who did a recent podcast on Sir Robert Hart.  A great podcast and a great episode.  I think if you listen to the podcast it will prove Professor Ross wrong that Sir Robert Hart was incredibly useful to his government and to the Chinese government.

We have tons more of these “OLD CHINA POSTS” here on MandMx.com

Book found here: page 526-528

Chinese History Podcast: 10 Questions for Lazlo Montgomery

Friday, December 2nd, 2011
china history header Chinese History Podcast: 10 Questions for Lazlo MontgomeryThere’s a podcast out there for all you Sinophiles if you haven’t seen it yet.  The Chinese History Podcast by Lazlo Montgomery is a jewel of a podcast in the caverns of iTunes and the interwebs.  If you haven’t heard of it or if you haven’t gone over to his site we would highly recommend it.  Even MX likes his podcast and she can learn two things: history of her own country (not that she doesn’t know it but it’s 5,000 years, you can’t know it all!) and she can practice her English comprehension.  Mr. Montgomery clearly enjoys doing the show and loves imparting knowledge to all of his fans worldwide.
We had a quick conversation over e-mail a while back and this is part 1.  Part 2 will come later:

MandMx:  How did you get started podcasting?  Why not a blog (writing) or a book (more writing)?  What was the inspiration?

Lazlo Montgomery: The initial inspiration was Bob Packett from the History According to Bob podcast.  He seemed like an ordinary guy in Kansas City who did this interesting thing by the seat of his pants and totally for the love of  the subject matter and the process.  After catching wind of a few more history podcasts and after waiting in vain for someone else to cover China, I opted to try it myself.  No one else would do it and so far no one has started any alternative to the CHP.  I thought a blog was too presumptuous of me in the face of all the real experts in China and the great writers of history.  My target is the person who is interested in China but probably won’t read a history book….or maybe even a China blog.  So an mp3 seemed the most suitable medium for this little idea.

MandMx:  What kind of traffic are you getting to the China History Podcast website and iTunes?

Lazlo Montgomery: I wish I knew.  Last night at a family function one of the brother-in-law’s told me there is a plug-in where you can get stats on your iTunes activity.  I don’t know if it’s 17 or 17 million.  It’s probably closer to 17.  The show always seems to be in the top 200 in the iTunes Store for the education category against some stiff competition.  In the China iTunes Store it seems to do quite good.  But how good, I have no idea.  My technical skills are limited unfortunately and no friends or relatives that I can rely on for free help.

MandMx:  Do you have many fans?  What are they saying?

Lazlo Montgomery: Since the day I started this I have not gotten one negative email from anyone.  They are always without fail, appreciative and filled with praise in one form or another.  I even have professors, journalists and scientists who listen and tell me how much they like it.  I’m amazed.  I also get some good ideas for topics.  Basically everyone is either Chinese thanking me for helping them polish up on their history and for the English practice or they are Westerners who just love China and want to learn or Westerners in China who just listen to see who is this strange guy?

 

MandMx:  Have you ever made a mistake about some historical issue or story?

Lazlo Montgomery: Two times that I know of.  First was in discussing the Chu-Han Contention between Liu Bang and Xiang Yu.  I wrongly said 楚河汉河 instead of 楚河汉界.  One of my Ningbo colleagues told me that one.  I have been too lazy to go back and change it.  But it’s on my list of things to do. The second one involved mispronouncing Laozi’s name. I said the 子 should be neutral but a Chinese listener informed me 应该是第三声.  I’m sure here and there I made a mistake or used the wrong tone when I mention the Chinese name for something.  I have an OCD about accuracy so I strive to give the facts.

 

MandMx:  Where do you get all your information?  I don’t hear many sources (except for the Sir Robert Hart podcast) or am I just not listening carefully!?

Lazlo Montgomery: I just made an “executive decision” not to include these in the podcast.  Like in the Hart episode, if it’s something particularly worth mentioning, I’ll do it.  But for the most part I have a rather large China history library and all these internet resources.  One of my intentions is to put a page up on my site listing every single volume in my library with comments about which ones are particular good.

 

MandMx:  Do you write all that you say on the podcast?

Lazlo Montgomery: My daughter is in her 2nd year at Berkeley and she calls me up groaning about an essay or paper that is due.  I tell her I write a dang 8 to 10 page paper every single week so she isn’t going to get any sympathy from me.  I do all the research, note-taking, writing, proofreading and double checking tones, recording, editing and uploading.  No one helps me.  I improvise over the script or whatever you want to call it.  If you listen to my podcasts, they’re pretty straight-forward and I limit the editorializing and comments.

 

MandMx:  Sometimes in your podcast you speak Chinese that is pretty good.  Where did you learn Chinese?

Lazlo Montgomery: May 1979 I saw an ad in the Daily Illini offering 2 semesters of Mandarin in an intensive summer school course.  So I stayed down in Champaign, IL during that summer and began my education.  China had just tied the knot with the US in January and Deng’s reforms were just getting underway.  The talk back in 1979-1980 was that sky’s the limit between US and China.  I dreamed to work for the Foreign Service.  But since 1989 I have worked for Chinese companies and have used Mandarin in my daily life so it never went stale on me and I keep learning a new word, phrase or whatever all the time.  Compared to some of these guys I listen to (like on the Sinica Podcast), I’m like a pre-schooler.  Those guys are my Mandarin heroes!

 

MandMx:  What are the top 5 websites that you go to for Chinese history?

Lazlo Montgomery: Wikipedia is good for dates and checking Pinyin and tones.  Usually I go to the bottom of the article and they list links to all their sources.  They’re from all over the place and I am too lazy to take note where I get what.  Google Books is invaluable. Mostly I use these books in my library and the internet usually is just a supplement.

 

MandMx:  What are the top 5 historians that you use for the podcast?

Lazlo Montgomery: I use Jonathon D. Spence, John King Fairbank, F.W. Mote the most.  Then I have a whole bunch of other books but those three are my stalwarts.

 

MandMx:  In your opinion, what makes Chinese history so interesting?

Lazlo Montgomery: To me and to so many other westerners it is interesting because it is both exotic and everyday at the same time. It’s so long and filled with all kinds of interesting stuff.  I believe (and I’m finding) there’s a huge pool of citizens all over the world who have this latent interest in all things China.  My little production is simply my two cents that I throw out there to help shore up the bridge of understanding between China and the US (or the west).

My 7 favorite Chinese History Podcast shows.

1.  Four Great Inventions

2.  Li Ka Shing – wealthiest Chinese in the world

3.  Tang Dynasty part 3 5 Dynasties and 10 Kingdoms
4.  Chinese Exclusion Act of 1882
5.  Wu Zetian – Tang Dynasty Empress
6.  Sir Robert Hart
7.  May 4th Movement 

Our own History posts from MandMx.com

–We have Old China Books where we excerpt sections from some old books about China.
Women in Chinese History
–While Teaching English in China we did an activity where students told us where they would go if they could go back in time.  FUN READ!
Moment of history brought to you by CHINA.